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Post by spooledupracing on Mar 3, 2006 14:37:07 GMT -5
I also agree on the structure thing being more than on paper. And a big group of friends is what I would like. Large dinners, track days, meets, and maybe days set aside to help each other with our cars should help us with that. Best thing I have heard yet hands down. I also cant make the weekly meets, having a full time job anda family, sorry but I have to put my priorities first but monthly or more meets I am good Dave
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Post by 2gDSMdynasty on Mar 3, 2006 18:42:47 GMT -5
Well, this is getting extremely heated. My thoughts are fairly similar to Brandon and Ashley's. I know, Ive been slacking on making the weekly meets lately, but thats not intentionally.(thanks to Ash for putting me out there like that ) I TRULY miss chilling with you guys down here regularly; and now I feel that I am "out-of-touch" with most of the Spoolin' Cr3w down here. I dont want it to be like that. To add imput on what Brandon said, I feel that the KZoo people here arent my "car-group friends", I seriously feel that they are my CLOSE friends. I AM going to make it a point to meet up with everyone down here WHENEVER you guys meet up, b/c honestly, I miss those get-togethers we used to have like everyday in the summer! even if we all just met up to wash our cars and maybe cruise, call me a lame-ass, but I look forward to that stuff. What I am trying to say is, "KEEP ME IN THE LOOP! CALL A HOMEBOI UP ONCE IN A WHILE!" ::Getting to the point:: I think that is what a "car-club" is all about. More than just a name on a forum, but an actual GROUP of people willing to help each other out;face to face. It was kinda depressing seeing Mike graduate and leave the group, and now Moe is moving, and even Brandon is no longer a DSM'r... We need to stay together while we can... Tell ya truth, I didnt expect WMDSM to go much farther than what it was over a year ago. When the time comes that some of us (maybe) outgrow these cars, I want to look back and be glad I met these friends, and enjoyed hanging out with them. WMDSM is a GROUP, a CLUB, and has been an ASSET to all of us at one point or another. Inside WMDSM, everyone has there own little groupings, i.e. KZOO; If you are on this forum, you ARE a member. Like Brandon has said, "Talk'N the talk and Walk'N the walk" are two totally different things. If we have this first meet of the year, and no one shows up, like they said they ALWAYS would, what is the point of having meets in the first place? As for leaders, I view our group in KZOO being so close is totally due to Brandon and Matt as our Leaders. The group down here is growing, and thats what we need to see in GR as well. I personally feel that TJ is doing a great job with what one person can do without proper group support. Bottomline: MEETS and IDEAS ARE IMPORTANT. Lets see a 50+ person meet agian, and a 20+ picnic BBQ agian. Lets enjoy the three months(if that) of semi-nice weather we have in this damn state, and get out there. Do it or everyone gets a f-ing knuckle-sandwich... Yea, I said it.
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Post by turbocreeper on Mar 3, 2006 21:28:03 GMT -5
I agree with TJ, the weekly meets in KZoo would be cool to attend on a regular basis but a lot of us do work full time (plus I go to school) and trying to find time to even relax is difficult some days. Im all for meets, wherever they may be, and I will also do my part. We should spread them out so we can get closer to all people, but weekends are the better choice for the "main" meets. I also agree that this is a DSM club. I dont want to see guys pulling up in riced out cars with big wings and neon. (hopefully I didnt offend anyone). There has to be a standard. If your car is broke, then bring what you can, if you show up to enough meets, then everyone will get familiar with you and know whats going on. I dont know, I just know Im looking forward to attending many meets, bbqs, parties, beach days, whatever. Im sorry the GR crew has failed to impress. I think we might make up for it this year though. I have confidence in TJ and what he's trying to do, and I will also help in anyway possible. Lets all try a little harder to help the next guy or girl when somethings wrong with their vehicle, so they can attend. Sorry again if I pissed anyone off or said something wrong. Id like to see some change.
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Post by WMUDSMgirl on Mar 3, 2006 21:33:16 GMT -5
The club is a dsm club and I will leave it to dsm only but that is not to say that we are excluding anyone. I have always been a fan of letting anyone come to the meets. A members list would be for those that have dsm and fall within the boundries of west michigan. So even though one of our founding members helped build up WMDSM to what it is...he isn't a member now because he sold his car? Something about that isn't right. I guess it's your club to do with what you want, but I really think you should take a vote on whether it's DSM's only before you make that kind of decision. You started the website, that's true, but I'd say all of us have put in the time and contributed to the actual club. This isn't a personal attack, but I know that there are more than just a few people that disagree with the DSM only idea.
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Post by spooledupracing on Mar 3, 2006 21:34:37 GMT -5
anyone is free to ride with me to the meets, I can ride in my honda hehehe
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Post by wishihadatalon on Mar 3, 2006 21:57:43 GMT -5
The club is a dsm club and I will leave it to dsm only but that is not to say that we are excluding anyone. I have always been a fan of letting anyone come to the meets. A members list would be for those that have dsm and fall within the boundries of west michigan. So even though one of our founding members helped build up WMDSM to what it is...he isn't a member now because he sold his car? Something about that isn't right. I guess it's your club to do with what you want, but I really think you should take a vote on whether it's DSM's only before you make that kind of decision. You started the website, that's true, but I'd say all of us have put in the time and contributed to the actual club. This isn't a personal attack, but I know that there are more than just a few people that disagree with the DSM only idea. The problem being that it is a dsm club. I don't see any problem with it. The members section will be devoted to those with dsms and will have pictures of their dsms. But the forum and meets are open to all.
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Post by pinder91 on Mar 4, 2006 2:47:41 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with the DSM only part of it. It's great that we want to start a DSM only club. The problem is that through just hanging out with the Kalamazoo people I have met many friends who do not own a DSM. I could care less about a solely DSM club, and maybe that makes me a bad person. What I'm really tired of is all these new people registering here and the only input I see them having is parts for sale. Screw that. We need some way to regualte who can post what and where. The Kzoo section does not need anyone else in charge... no offense to Steve or AJ, but Brandon and Matt are doing just fine. So what if Brandon sold his car in an effort to further his future. He is like a brother to me and I stand by him 100%.... even if he has i-vtech (sorry buddy, I'm drunk right now). I understand the basing for this club, but I use it as a western version of xceedspeed. I checkk to see what is for sale, and where the weekly meet is... that's it. I especially don't like gettng spammed on IM about parts for sale when my car came stock with said equipment. I can't wait for warmer weather so the monthly meets will happen again. There have been several occasions where only certain few from GR have shown upto club events... (TJ and Ben and even Yomani.) Although I disagree with an attendance policy, I think everyone should show the fuck up once in awhile so we know who the hell you are. Everyone in Kalamazoo knows who I am.... I was one of the first to show up to the WMDSM meets. So I may not know the most out of everyone in town, and my car may not be the fastest, but I do care about seeing my friends and helping them whenever I get the chance (even if it is instaling JDM fogs on a TSX... I love you buddy). I can't wait till this summer to hang with everyone, but whether we have this club or not, I will still chill with my friends in Kzoo regardless.
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Post by WMUDSMgirl on Mar 4, 2006 2:53:46 GMT -5
I guess maybe I'm not fully understanding what you mean by "club" then. If you are just referring to the website...I guess that doesn't really constitute a club to me. If you are just adding a "members only" section to the website, where only DSM owners can post and only DSM owners can reply, you are kind of limiting the amount of information that can be shared. If anyone is allowed at a meet and we do have a lot of regulars down here that do not own DSM's, then how are you restricting the club to DSM's only? I agree with Andrew (I know, surprise, surprise) I just want to hang out with the friends that I have made and that come out to the meets, whether they own a DSM or not. WMDSM so far is a website, but gotta be honest, I'm a new member still because any useful info I need, I get from Matt, Brandon, or Tuners. Again, this is not meant to start an argument, but I am really not seeing where the DSM only part comes into play. Maybe it's the XX chromosome, but either way, I think all should be welcome.
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Post by spooledupracing on Mar 4, 2006 6:33:21 GMT -5
What I'm really tired of is all these new people registering here and the only input I see them having is parts for sale. I take it that was pushed at me??? first of I put my input in where I feel it is needed, I am here to help BUILD this forum/community. I like the idea of a DSM only club, sorry but I mean this is West Michigan DSM!! just like the club/team I have Spooled up Racing, plain and simple I am dedicated to FORCED PERFORMANCE engines ONLY (particularly turbocharged since thats where the "spooled" comes into play). I just feel that maybe we should start a bit earlier with some of the local meets here in GR to get the word out, meet some people then OFFICALLY have a BIG gathering in the spring, kinda like a grand opening some places open get soem flow in then they have there GRAND OPENING.. its all abou advertisement or in our case getting the word out, I dont mind being the pusher for local meets and events I deff know how to get the word out, but I personally think we should aim for a mini meet of the GR guys here in like 1-2 weeks just to get the faces out there, the word of WMDSM, and let others know we are for real we want to do this and we are welcoming all new commers. One thing to know is before a week or so ago I NEVER heard of this forum. so if anyone who has never been here will never know abotu the meets, I can collect faces and get the word out, give me a time and date for a mini meet in GR Ill make it happen! (I'm a great party cordinator) Dave
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Post by SPOOLD on Mar 4, 2006 8:06:16 GMT -5
ok i'll finally sit down and throw some into this.
first of all with the club, i agree that this is technically a dsm club. but allowing people that dont have or used to have a dsm should be cool. much is the case in kzoo. as for restricting it to strictly west michigan. that might be hard and a tad excessive. hell i mean if i have buddies over in ann arbor that wanna come to a meet would anybody be like "well thats not west michigan". i mean i was originally from traverse city when i first got to know tj and ben and the gr crew, and i looked forward to being a part of some sort of dsm club/group/whatever when i moved down to kzoo. i mean there's only maybe 10 of us originally from tc in our little ttg crew and the only other than myself on here is erik and he rarely ever has time to visit. the point being here is that we should still let a person in if they have a dsm and want to be a part. it helps spread the word that way. and as far as meets and participation well, everyone needs to understand that if they can find a way to make it they should. it's fun and not to mention for every single extra dsm that shows up to a meet. it makes it seem that much bigger and really whats cooler than a 20-30+ dsm caravan rolling by? i wont ramble much more on this for now cuz it's still early and my brain hasnt warmed up and started working fully yet. next on the subject of noobs, as is the deal with many other boards, you have to have a certain minimum number of posts before you're allowed to post in any of the for sale or wanted sections. i think if it's possible to set up something like that with our board format then we should. have like a 50 post minimum or something.
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Post by pinder91 on Mar 4, 2006 8:27:48 GMT -5
What I'm really tired of is all these new people registering here and the only input I see them having is parts for sale. I take it that was pushed at me??? first of I put my input in where I feel it is needed, I am here to help BUILD this forum/community. There were a couple people that have only registered to sell shit, like the guy trying to sell the FWD 2G... you actually post.
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Post by spooledupracing on Mar 4, 2006 9:22:31 GMT -5
ok its good to know Im not singled out here lol.. again I like th eDSM club thing, and what I meant by WEST MI is that if u know guys on the other side of the state or other states that want to come COOL. HOWEVER I think we need to work on building up on the WEST SIDE first, as in spend time here in GR, Kzoo etc expanding what we have now before we reach out, Im not saying that those wihout a DSM or those who live elsewhere CANT come I just say lets FOCUS on here and current DSM owners for the BACKBONE of wmdsm club other can come by anytime thats not the issue the issue is that we has a tight nit group are still to small and not stable to worry about other makes and locations. lets start buy building what we have then reaching out AS we GROW.
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Post by 2gDSMdynasty on Mar 4, 2006 11:09:29 GMT -5
I can collect faces and get the word out, give me a time and date for a mini meet in GR Ill make it happen! (I'm a great party cordinator) Dave ?!!!! Dave, personally, cordinate all you want, but I have NO IDEA WHO the hell you are, and all I know is about spooldupracing is that you had a turbocharged van. ps Maybe it's the XX chromosome, but either way, I think all should be welcome. LMAO Ashley, you make me giggle.
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Post by spooledupracing on Mar 4, 2006 12:25:53 GMT -5
then u dont know me or Spooled up Racing lol
my past cars list (turbo cars that is) 88 Conquest Xr4Ti 89 Voyager turbo 88 Lebaron turbo 90 laser RS-T 4G63 (current)
my buddy also a member has a 73 Datsun 240Z with a ZXT swap
I wont cordinate till I talk to TJ this is his gig not mine, I just dont mind heloing out thats all.
Dave
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Post by wishihadatalon on Mar 4, 2006 15:37:14 GMT -5
I guess maybe I'm not fully understanding what you mean by "club" then. If you are just referring to the website...I guess that doesn't really constitute a club to me. If you are just adding a "members only" section to the website, where only DSM owners can post and only DSM owners can reply, you are kind of limiting the amount of information that can be shared. If anyone is allowed at a meet and we do have a lot of regulars down here that do not own DSM's, then how are you restricting the club to DSM's only? I agree with Andrew (I know, surprise, surprise) I just want to hang out with the friends that I have made and that come out to the meets, whether they own a DSM or not. WMDSM so far is a website, but gotta be honest, I'm a new member still because any useful info I need, I get from Matt, Brandon, or Tuners. Again, this is not meant to start an argument, but I am really not seeing where the DSM only part comes into play. Maybe it's the XX chromosome, but either way, I think all should be welcome. Not to offend but dsm tooners isn't much of a source of good info. And I guess you don't understand it. A website is a base to bring people together that live 2+ hours from each other and have normal lives that involve a 10 to 6:15 job. The meets are to get to know all the people you talk to online. Im glad you guys have friend and if you guys wanna bring up the number of friends you hang out with with cars that should be in the club I will bring up all mine. Dave knows he wouldn't be a member cause he owns a spec v. Jeff also knows because he has a cavilier hell even Ryan knows but he came to the dyno day and is active on the forum, but I am sure he understands that he would never be a member of a dsm club without a dsm. Yes I would like to se up some member only meets of just dsms because thats what a club should do have meets with its members. But thats not to say that all meets would be limited just our members but I would like the club to act like a club. The only real resistance I have seen is from a few choice kzoo members. Everyone else seems to be interested in such a thing.
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